Cyclone Organic wrote:Viktor Amarr wrote:
Because years ago the Tengu was better, mostly because HML wasn't nerfed (although even back then I wasn't a fan of it). The majority of EVE players don't base their choices on facts or research, they simply regurgitate tired old and mistaken memes like "caldari sucks at pvp", "missiles suck at pvp", "caldari for PVE", "solo pvp is dead" etc etc they heard from other uninformed meme spouting clueless people.
This might be true. Maybe It's my culture background that concerns me. I am from Asia and in my homeland, If everyone agrees with one opinion, that means something: Even that point is not true, but there should be some reasons behind it.
To prove my idea, I'd always prefer to speak with data. I used EFT and other fitting tools since I don't have enough skills for both of these ships.
I posted this topic to see If there is anything important I forget to calculate.
I'm not sure how you are getting 750 DPS out of a Cerb, especially with the damage application to actually pull furies off? Here's kinda the direction I was leaning with a Tengu, and my best guess for what a high DPS Cerb looks like.
[Tengu, PVE Tengu]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
10MN Afterburner II
Domination Medium Shield Booster
Republic Fleet Medium Cap Battery
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
Implants:
HG Crystals, HM-705, GP-905, TN-905, RL-1005
DPS: 788
Tank: ~350 vs Sansha/Blood, ~750 vs Guri
[Cerberus, PVE]
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
10MN Afterburner II
Dread Guristas Medium Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
DPS: 710
Tank: ~200 vs Sansha/Blood, ~500 vs Guri
-Liang